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klasskill commented

That is the order menu, by right clicking on a unit.

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Hold position / pursue / guard secondary orders have been replaced by the 'hold' primary order (default key 'H'). Unfortunately, this does not yet have a button in the GUI. (Primary orders have never had buttons.)

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klasskill commented

Replying to Warzone2100/old-trac-import#4303 (comment:2):

Hold position / pursue / guard secondary orders have been replaced by the 'hold' primary order (default key 'H'). Unfortunately, this does not yet have a button in the GUI. (Primary orders have never had buttons.)

I don't understand, hold position means for the unit to stay where they are.
Pursue means to go after an attacker.
Guard position means to attack whatever is in range of the object you are guarding.

Are you now saying that the only option left is hold position?
I did not see a forum post about this radical & unwanted change!

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See [8]fd88edcc2adf804dc5cf032076137f434fcf7b4
and http://forums.wz2100.net/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=10415&p=115108

If you want it changed, make a new forum thread about it.

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KlassKill commented

http://forums.wz2100.net/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=12197
looks like the poll results are clear so when will we see these commands put back?

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KlassKill commented

I do not understand? I was told to make a forum thread about it and we even had a poll on the matter and 91% of the people want this so why did you close this again?
http://forums.wz2100.net/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=12197 is the forum thread and poll

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Recently, I have been involved in the campaign testing process (http://forums.wz2100.net/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=12714). Much has been done to correct past issues in the conversion to jscam. However, it'll take more than just correcting the scripts to make the campaign play the way that it should (i.e. approximating how it used to). Each campaign stage is a puzzle to be solved, and removing the pursue/guard/hold features removes key pieces of the solution to many. They are also fundamental and characteristic aspects of the game (in any mode).

I've done the homework and read through the threads referenced above. Nothing in them makes clear what the original issue was that caused them to be removed, and whatever it was (I personally never experienced any problems with these features), it almost certainly wasn't as bad as not having the features at all.

Could this please be revisited? There is much support for reinstating these features and I believe another public release without them would gain little traction, thus somewhat negating all the hard work being done to correct the campaign scripts.

My request is (1) the features be restored to the state they were in the last good version they were present, and then (2) whatever issues were affecting them be subsequently fixed. I'm more than happy to give my time testing any changes, etc.

Here is some further supporting discussion from the current work on bug-fixing jscam. A few posts either side of these probably give the best context:
http://forums.wz2100.net/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=12714&start=240#p137993 (units revert to guard mode)
http://forums.wz2100.net/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=12714&start=315#p138190 (see end of post about damaged units)

Suspected knock-on effects of removing this functionality include:
http://forums.wz2100.net/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=12714&p=137443#p137443 (No. 2 in the list)
http://forums.wz2100.net/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=12714&p=138346#p138346 (enemy units that should pursue no longer do in the campaign)

Please contact me if you need example save games where lack of these features creates difficulties that weren't previously present and that the "new" hold function doesn't resolve.

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Is the hold order going to be fixed?

I heard that it does not work the way it originally did.

Hopefully this is not too old.

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In Warzone2100/warzone2100@29d3696:

#CommitTicketReference repository="" revision="29d3696dd62f034d02d51b9caa7d834cc84e13d3"
Restore the hold, guard, and pursue secondary states.

Partial reverts of 8fd88edcc2adf804dc5cf032076137f434fcf7b4 and 2bee384cc1f0feeaf77e887b5082cac9220b7934.

-Now prevents regular sensors from observing targets that went out
of the sensor's vision range if the secondary state was not guard.

Fixes ticket 4303.