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savegame for Gamma 1 which starts immediately after the first transporter drop

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first drop of units by transporter in Gamma 1 after applying this patch

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Berserk Cyborg commented

Mostly cyclone units would be an interesting situation too, lol. Your group composition would do fine.

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alfred007 commented

I don't understand why you want to add Cyclone units at all. The queue for the first VTOL attack from Nexus is 8 minutes. And even with insane difficulty you have more than
6 minutes to build AA sites. So I suggest replacing the cyclone units by one more Assault Gun and one more HVC. Makes more sense in my eyes. I never used AA units in Gamma 01 when I played the campaign.
Edit: You have more than 5 minutes with insane difficulty (not 6 as written above) to build AA sites. And this is also more than enough.

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Forgon commented

Replying to Warzone2100/old-trac-import#4833 (comment:3):

I don't understand why you want to add Cyclone units at all. The queue for the first VTOL attack from Nexus is 8 minutes. And even with insane difficulty you have more than
6 minutes to build AA sites. So I suggest replacing the cyclone units by one more Assault Gun and one more HVC. Makes more sense in my eyes. I never used AA units in Gamma 01 when I played the campaign.
Edit: You have more than 5 minutes with insane difficulty (not 6 as written above) to build AA sites. And this is also more than enough.
If no Cyclones were included in transporter drops, enemy VTOLs could come as a surprise when playing Gamma 1 for the first time.

And what if the player wants to play that mission differently?
There are viable strategies without AA sites. For example, one can quickly conquer the enemy position north of the landing zone and then use all trucks to build VTOL factories and pads to prepare an areal bombardment.

alfred007 commented

Replying to Warzone2100/old-trac-import#4833 (comment:4):

Replying to Warzone2100/old-trac-import#4833 (comment:3):

I don't understand why you want to add Cyclone units at all. The queue for the first VTOL attack from Nexus is 8 minutes. And even with insane difficulty you have more than
6 minutes to build AA sites. So I suggest replacing the cyclone units by one more Assault Gun and one more HVC. Makes more sense in my eyes. I never used AA units in Gamma 01 when I played the campaign.
Edit: You have more than 5 minutes with insane difficulty (not 6 as written above) to build AA sites. And this is also more than enough.
If no Cyclones were included in transporter drops, enemy VTOLs could come as a surprise when playing Gamma 1 for the first time.

And what if the player wants to play that mission differently?
There are viable strategies without AA sites. For example, one can quickly conquer the enemy position north of the landing zone and then use all trucks to build VTOL factories and pads to prepare an areal bombardment.

I understand what you mean even that I don't think so that any player who has never played gamma mission before will start gamma mission directly from the menu.

I think the best solution would be if the player could choose his own units. You could force him to choose a minimum of two trucks and the rest by his own choice. I have no programming knowledge so I can't imagine if this is possible and how difficult it would be.

If you want to implement your suggestion I'm fine with that though I still stand to mine.

Forgon commented

Replying to Warzone2100/old-trac-import#4833 (comment:5):

[...] I understand what you mean even that I don't think so that any player who has never played gamma mission before will start gamma mission directly from the menu.

I think the best solution would be if the player could choose his own units. You could force him to choose a minimum of two trucks and the rest by his own choice. I have no programming knowledge so I can't imagine if this is possible and how difficult it would be. [...]
Implementing this would be a time-consuming excess that will hardly benefit anyone.
Players who want to chose their units at the start of Gamma 1 have two options:

• play the Beta campaign first, the only option (except for cheating) before

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  commit b041fa119fffb77b00c5a975780c474bae2f7bfb
  Author: Per Inge Mathisen per@wz2100.net
  Date: Sun Dec 16 21:52:42 2012 +0100

  Add basic infrastructure for selecting a campaign mod from inside the game.
  Now you can start each of the alpha, beta and gamma campaigns separately.
  

  '

• modify the function 'sendPlayerTransporter()' in the file './data/base/script/campaign/cam3-a.js'. For example, to replace the 2 Cyclone turrets with 1 HPV and 1 MG you could write:

_Extra transport units are only awarded to those who start Gamma campaign
_from the main menu.
function sendPlayerTransporter()
{
	const transportLimit = 4; //Max of four transport loads if starting from menu.
	if (!camDef(index))
	{
		index = 0;
	}

	if (index === transportLimit)
	{
		return;
	}

	var droids = [];
	var list = [cTempl.prhasgnt, cTempl.prhhpvt, cTempl.prtruck];

	// send 5 Assault Guns, 3 Hyper Velocity Cannons and 2 Trucks

	for (var i = 0; i < 5; ++i)
	{
		droids.push(list[0]);
	}

	for (var i = 0; i < 3; ++i)
	{
		droids.push(list[1]);
	}

	for (var i = 0; i < 2; ++i)
	{
		droids.push(list[2]);
	}

	camSendReinforcement(CAM_HUMAN_PLAYER, camMakePos("landingZone"), droids,
		CAM_REINFORCE_TRANSPORT, {
			entry: { x: 63, y: 118 },
			exit: { x: 63, y: 118 }
		}
	);

	index = index + 1;
	queue("sendPlayerTransporter", 300000); //5 min
}

alfred007 commented

Replying to Warzone2100/old-trac-import#4833 (comment:6):

Replying to Warzone2100/old-trac-import#4833 (comment:5):

[...] I understand what you mean even that I don't think so that any player who has never played gamma mission before will start gamma mission directly from the menu.

I think the best solution would be if the player could choose his own units. You could force him to choose a minimum of two trucks and the rest by his own choice. I have no programming knowledge so I can't imagine if this is possible and how difficult it would be. [...]
Implementing this would be a time-consuming excess that will hardly benefit anyone. [...]
In that case: forget it. As I wrote before: I'm fine with every decision you make.

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fixes #4833: when starting a new Gamma campaign, Gamma 1 transporter drops no longer contain 7 randomly selected units, but consist of precisely

- 4 Assault Guns
- 2 Hyper Velocity Cannons
- 2 Cyclone AA Turrets
- 2 Trucks

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